15 responses

  1. Paul Douglas
    July 2, 2014

    Why should anybody be surprised at christianists lying through their teeth about anything? Their Lard gives them a free pass to further the kingdom. They are so used to spouting their inconsistent bible verses and rationalizing when one contradicts another that it carries over into ALL of their thought processes: pretty soon when they say “white” it means “black” because of blah, blah, blah. It must be hard to reconcile all of that stuff in their poor brains. What a waste of energy and Lively is a total waste of a human life. What a loser.

  2. Paul Douglas
    July 2, 2014

    Shoulda wrote “when one contradicts another”.
    Poor reviewing pre-posting,

  3. Gus
    July 2, 2014

    It’s one thing for the homofacist websites like this one to quote him word for word, it quite another when it goes more mainstream to embarrass him.

  4. Pliny
    July 2, 2014

    Lively should be careful what he wishes for. Oliver & Co have already proved themselves gleefully willing to capitalize on subjects responding to their show.

  5. Sharon B
    July 2, 2014

    Lively is a sociopath and narcissist. Quel surprise. ChrINOs!

  6. FYoung
    July 2, 2014

    In the videos, Lively claims to have a gay brother and a lesbian sister. Do we know if that is true? Have they ever been interviewed?

    He also claims to have a certificate from the Human Rights Institute in Strasbourg, France. Do we know if that is true? I have never been able to get an answer from the Institute on this. Since Lively is up for election for Governor of Massachusetts this fall, this needs to be checked out.

  7. Ray
    July 2, 2014

    Wouldn’t it be nice if Crimes Against Humanity defendant Scott Lively allowed commenting on his web site.

    Perhaps this would be a good place to respond:

    https://www.facebook.com/SL4G2014

    Lively For Governor.

  8. Eric Payne
    July 3, 2014

    Ray,

    Did you check out “Lively for Fovernor” FB page before sending the link? With only 13″Likes,” I have to wonder if it’s really Lively’s “official” campaign page or not.

  9. Eric Payne
    July 3, 2014

    Further comment on Ray’s link — since both “Independent” ang “Governor” are misspelled in the page’s descriptor of Lively (“Pastor and attorney, Indidependant Candidate for Govenor “), it’s obvious this is not the Lively campaign’s Facebook page.

    So a warning: While the page, and any comments on the page, would probably be seen by a judge as acceptable free speech — the page as parody, the comments as personal opinion — Facebook, itself, is less accommodating. If Lively wanted to, he could press Facebook to cancel the accounts of commenters (if he felt they were slanderous) and block the IP address of the creators from accessing Facebook.

  10. Eric Payne
    July 3, 2014

    FYoung,

    Scott Lively was born in December, 1957. According to the bio on his website (http://www.scottlively.net/a-brief-autobiography/), he had a troubled early family life:

    I was born and raised in the village of Shelburne Falls, Massachusetts, the oldest of six children. My father suffered from a severe form of mental illness that began when I was about 9 or 10 and became progressively worse. At the age of 12 I became an alcoholic as a means of coping with my family situation.

    At 16 I watched my father, in a state of extreme pyschosis, engage in an armed stand-off with the state police in my childhood home, over an incident involving my dropping out of school. He eventually surrendered and was driven away in the back of a police cruiser, never to return. He spent the rest of his life in the state mental hospital.

    After that (with perhaps a few years’ cross-over), Lively states he hitchhiker around the country, to all 48 contiguous states, and put over 25K miles under his belt. In 1986, according to Lively, he “accepted Christ”, receiving his “ministers” in 1988, when:

    a pro-life activist showed me pictures of aborted babies. I was both horrified and outraged. How could this be happening in America? Within a few months I became a full-time missionary for the unborn. I didn’t join any group, I just started doing it on my own: picketing, protesting and educating the public.

    In 1989, according to Lively, he began attempting to sway Oregon voters — his alcoholic/drug-filled wanderings ended when he entered rehab in Oregon in 1986 — when:

    … I met Pastor Lon Mabon and got involved with his organization Oregon Citizens Alliance, the largest state-wide Christian political group in the nation. Within a few weeks, having no formal education or experience, I became the State Communications Director. We were running a pro-life ballot measure for the 1990 election.

    In 1991 OCA shifted from the abortion issue to homosexuality due to the rapid advance of that agenda in Oregon. I knew very little about the issue but over the next several years had my eyes opened to things very few Christians have ever seen or experienced. I realized that homosexuality was even more destructive to society than abortion.

    From 1989 on, Box Turtle‘s own Jim Burroway has done a rather exhaustive research into Lively’s “story” at http://www.politicalresearch.org/2011/03/01/livelys-lies-a-profile-of-scott-lively/

    In neither Burroway’s writing nor Lively’s website brief autobiography is there any mention of degrees/certificates of higher learning… Including Lively’s claim to have a JD degree from Trinity University in Santa Ana, CA. Though it is possible, Lively’s admissions of events of his past (up to 1989) and Jim’s reporting of Lively’s post-1989 public life make the timeline pretty tight.

    Nor doe he mention having any gay siblings, though that is a claim he’s since made.

    It would be interesting to learn if the “psychosis” of his father is true or not and, if so, whether that psychosis was one that indicates a genetic predisposition to have re-occur in offspring of the affected.

  11. Eric Payne
    July 3, 2014

    I just placed a call to Richie Davis, staff reporter for the Springfield, MA, The Recorder. In February, 2014, Davis was by-lined on a piece entitled “Area native takes anti-gay crusade to governor’s race” (http://www.recorder.com/home/10259903-95/area-native-takes-anti-gay-crusade-to-govs-race).

    Under the sub-head “Franklin County Past,” Davis writes:

    But the oldest of six children of Maurice (pronounced Morris) and Judith Lively, he watched as his father’s “severe form of mental illness” grew progressively worse from the time he was 9 or 10. At 12, to cope with his family troubles, he began drinking beer behind Ashfield Lake House with a friend, and began smoking marijuana and experimenting with other drugs. He was already an alcoholic, he says.

    Davis also reveals Lively’s MA childhood address:
    9 South Maple St. in Shelburne Falls, and that his grandfather’s farm was on Heath’s Number Nine Road,

    Okay, then, with a leeway of a few years on either side, Lively’s father would have been institutionalized sometime between 1971, when Lively was 14 to 1975, when Lively was 18. Lively would have turned 16 in December, 1973.

    According to Lively, he spent 16 years as an alcoholic drug addict before in-patient rehab helped him establish is faith. That “come to Jesus” moment was in 1986, which kinda/sorta falls in line with his story (though it’s off a year. He says he started drinking at 12… but in 1970, he was actually 13 going on 14). Also in 1986, he had relocated to Oregon…

    In 1986, Lively had no certificate of higher learning. Lively lived and worked, full-time, in Oregon until the “late 1990s.”

    That means in 24 years, at best (1990), Lively first graduated from college, got into law school, graduated from law school, passed the bar in both CA and MA, went into practice and has since quit practicing.

    Mrcia Kelly, Chief Advancement Officer for Trinity Law College, from which Lively claims his JD, was asked for comment and alumni verification; so far, there hasn’t been a response.

    In his article, Davis states:

    Lively earned a law degree from Trinity Law School in Santa Ana, Calif. and a religion degree from the School of Bible Theology.

    But in our phone conversation, Davis indicated the above was simply given to him as autobiographical information; he did not verify the statements as truthful.

    That’s all I’ve come up with so far.

  12. Joseph Singer
    July 3, 2014

    I would so like to see John Oliver eviscerate Scott Lively. I have no doubt that Mr Oliver could do it without the need for “TelePrompter or “props.

  13. Pacal
    July 4, 2014

    Thank you Gus. If you can’t contest the statements name call. I realize that “homofascist” is becoming a popular meme among bigots, but you and people who use the word should really look up what a Fascist is.

  14. Richard Rush
    July 4, 2014

    I need to be skeptical of Lively’s autobiographical statements because one of the essentials for True Christians™ is having a compelling “testimony.” Surely, Lively knows that extra points are scored when your “testimony” is especially lurid.

  15. Ben in Oakland
    July 4, 2014

    I think, pacal, it was sarcasm and irony, not bigotry. But it’s hard to tell. Poe’s law, y’know.

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