“We’re Going To Suffer Some Kind Of Infrastructure Collapse” — All Because Of The Gays

Jim Burroway

July 16th, 2009

In an amateur video posted this week on YouTube, Scott Lively talked about his work in “re-Christianizing America,” which is threatened by an “infrastructure collapse” brought on by that dreaded gay agenda:

Frankly, I see things simply disintegrating very rapidly and I believe that we’re going to suffer some kind of infrastructure collapse in this society because of the failure of moral culture, and that Christians have a responsibility to continue to oppose this disintegration.”

Scott Lively is famous for his book, The Pink Swastika, which claims that the Nazi party was, at it’s core, a murderous homosexual movement, and that fascism is the inevitable result of any expansion of gay rights. Last spring, he appeared at an anti-gay conference in Kampala, Uganda with Exodus board member Don Schmierer. That conference called for a strengthening of that country’s already draconian law against homosexuality which already provides for a lifetime imprisonment for those convicted. That conference kicked off a long-running public anti-gay vigilante campaign which is still reverberating through the country. A bill has been announced before Uganda’s parliament to rescind free-speech protections for LGBT people and place an outright ban on all advocacy on their behalf.

In this latest video, Lively sees himself as a missionary to Massachusetts, saying he moved to Springfield from Temecula, California, because “Massachusetts is the most morally corrupt state in the union.” He offered his latest brain-droppings while preparing to speak before a committee of the Massachusetts House against a bill which would provide hate crime and non-discrimination protections on the basis of sexual identity and expression.  Lively identified that bill as one of “two hundred other bills that’s being heard today” which he thinks are just as bad, so he has to pick and choose his battles. “We don’t have time to deal with them all,” he shrugs. You can guess which one he chose:

The only solution we have to this kind of a problem is for good people, godly, god-fearing people who hold to the truth of the Bible to be sitting in those seats and making the decisions. Lacking that, we have to scramble to try to come and testify on the ones that are the most critical, like this transgender hate crimes bill, and sort of live with the frustration that our efforts are not sufficient to stop the trend.

Lively is optimistic though. He’s convinced that things will get so bad that people will eventually turn back to his particular version of God:

…[A]s it has always happened in the past, people are going to cry out to God, and they’re going to repent. They’re going to look for a way out of that problem, out of that crisis, just like happened right after 9/11. You remember it lasted three weeks or so after 9/11 you saw a little glimpse of that. But I think that’s going to happen again, and if those of us who are true to His Word are preparing ourselves for that day, then we will be able to begin to rebuild on a more Biblical and more logical and more family-friendly footing.”

Watch it:


Scott Lively’s Abiding Truth Ministries is one of only twelve groups on the Southern Poverty Law Center\’s list of anti-gay hate groups. His is also co-founder of Watchmen On the Walls, another international group that is listed by the SPLC as an anti-gay hate group. Last January, he was a featured speaker at the MassResistance fundraiser, and appears to be forming links with that group. That would be a third SPLC anti-gay hate group he has ties to. The man certainly gets around.

Earlier this month, Lively announced that he would “no longer be monitoring the day-to-day developments of the culture war regarding homosexuality as closely.” I was skeptical. He’s not going away anytime soon.


July 16th, 2009

Interesting that this guy will move from one area to another training small groups to hate gays and to lobby against anything that is not in line with their “god”, teaching hate to these small groups or lets call them “cells”, the move on once those “cells” are sufficient to train other loose net cells with no clear leader but some over arching goal, much like….the terrorists do in training their cells? Only this guy isn’t buying weapons to shoot gays….yet. If there is any failure due to “god’s wrath” I think it would be from hate-filled people like this. Or he simply needs to come to terms with his suppressed homosexual feelings.


July 16th, 2009

Every time I see this guy’s face, my view that the religious right is, at its core, a proto-fascist political movement becomes further cemented. I suspect that if they really looked at it, the SPLC would probably add quite a few other organizations to its list of anti-gay hate groups, like the FRC and AFA, but homophobia still falls within the realm of respectable opinion for many people, so it’ll be a while before that happens.


July 16th, 2009

Dear god please tell me theirs gonna be a video of his testimony. I’m laughing just thinking of them facepalming as this ass rambles about how he should be able to beat up queers because their responsible for the holocaust and slavery and Reality TV shows.


July 16th, 2009

At the very least, members of the state legislature should be alerted about who this guy is and what he’s about.


July 16th, 2009

And these are supposed to be men of God…disgusting. I don’t see anything but hatred in this individual. Last I checked, the Bible says that if you think murder in your heart, it is the same as if you actually went out and murdered someone.

The danger in this country is individuals like this who think they have the inside scoop on God’s Will and are willing to carry it out.

As for these characters being at core a
protofascist group, I think it was Upton Sinclair who said “When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”


July 16th, 2009


I hope this video is seen by as many Massachusetts State Senators as possible. I wonder how they’ll react when they hear Lively claim the Bay State is the “most morally corrupt state in the Union.” If Massachusetts Senators mock Lively like US Senators(or Congressmen/women -can’t remember which) mocked Elaine Donnelly during past DADT hearings, he will receive no sympathy from me.

I can’t wait for the day we all start living biblically. I’ll be able to stone adulterers like those immoral, pro-sodomy, Democrats John Ensign, Mark Sanford, David Vitter and Newt Gringrich. Oh wait… ;-)


July 16th, 2009

It all bears out what I’ve said before: the man’s a megalomaniac. Still, we mustn’t give up hope. He may suddenly see the light and repent of his homo-hatred.


July 16th, 2009

He’s discovered our secret plan to destroy America’s highways and bridges? Darn it!


July 16th, 2009

Wow real patriotic and Christian of him. Wishing for the deaths of thousands more of his countrymen so he can have his petty little pathetic issue resolved the way he sees fit.


July 16th, 2009

i don’t think they need any help from anyone else’s “agenda” in destroying the infrastructure.

they’ve been doing quite well on their own.

they cause bridges collapse in Minnesota; they refuse to fund rehab of schools and government buildings; they send millions, no billions, of dollars to other countries without taking care of our own country…

i think that they are doing a bang-up job aaallllllll by themselves.

now, let’s see where are we on our agenda? oh, it’s 6:30 pm. time to get dressed for dinner.

just kidding. i ate already.

Lynn David

July 17th, 2009

Gee… I didn’t realize that chance sexual encounter under the river bridge in Minnesota was that earth-shaking.

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