Posts Tagged As: California
October 6th, 2008
A new SurveyUSA poll has a troubling finding:
According to the poll, likely California voters overall now favor passage of Proposition 8 by a five-point margin, 47 percent to 42 percent. Ironically, a CBS 5 poll eleven days prior found a five-point margin in favor of the measure’s opponents.
The only demographic group to significantly change their views during this period were younger voters — considered the hardest to poll and the most unpredictable voters — who now support the measure after previously opposing it.
I’m not sure what to make of this poll. I don’t put much trust in SurveyUSA. And the idea that younger voters would support a marriage ban seems to run contrary to every report, poll, survey or casual observation for the past several years.
But I do know that No on 8 is concerned and needs every dollar it can get along with every single spare minute that you may be able to contribute.
October 6th, 2008
In 2007 four fire-fighters in San Diego were so traumatized by having to ride in a fire engine in the Gay Pride Parade that they had to immediately contact an anti-gay activist law firm and sue the city. And they weren’t looking for just a change in policy, they wanted money money money.
The case has now been argued in court. And although they testified that the crowd was so sexually abusive to them that they rolled up the windows and put on earphones, the paramedic in the ambulance behind them didn’t notice any sexual abuse or anyone approach the fire engine.
The San Diego Union-Tribune is reporting a mistrial:
According to lawyer Charles LiMandri, who represented the firefighters in the suit, the jury deadlocked 8-4 in favor of the firefighters on the sexual harassment claim.
The jury voted 11-1 to reject the claim of one firefighter that he suffered retaliation for complaining about the parade assignment.
You may recognize LiMandri’s name as he hosted a “Yes on Proposition 8” fundraiser which was protested by Californians Against Hate.
October 6th, 2008
Orange County is perceived as the most conservative of California’s counties. It is the home to the large churches and “family values” organizations and hasn’t voted for a Democrat for President since 1936.
In 2000, the voters in Orange County supported Proposition 22, a change to the civil code that banned gay marriage (since overturned by the state Supreme Court), by 69%, significantly more than the state’s average. And the region’s newspaper, the Orange County Register, had this to say:
The ultimate question in Prop. 22 is whether the definition of what constitutes a marriage should remain as it always has been, or whether the door can be opened to same-sex marriages – and by extension to any other sort of arrangements that people might devise.
Their advice was not to risk such a thing and instead to vote “Yes” on Proposition 22.
But time has passed and attitudes have evolved. And California’s conservative paper has changed its position. The OC Register opposes Proposition 8.
As our understanding of equal protection has evolved and expanded and as an increasing number of same-sex couples have expressed a desire to make lifelong commitments to one another – incidentally, promoting societal stability and reducing promiscuity – it has become clear that equal protection should be extended to same-sex couples.
In an ideal world, the state would have little or no role in defining or regulating so intimate a relationship as marriage. However, the state has inserted itself into all too many aspects of our private lives. Given that it has done so, it is only fair that it afford equal protection to all who choose to make loving lifelong commitments to one another. We recommend a “no” vote on Prop. 8.
Also opposing Proposition 8:
(hat tip to reader Tara)
According to the logic employed by proponents of Proposition 8
October 6th, 2008
Schools will now be required to teach students that gay marriage is the same as traditional marriage, starting with kindergarteners.
Or so say the supporters of Proposition 8 on their official website, Protectmarriage.com. It’s right there in the education code, they tell you.
This is one of Yes on 8’s three central themes (along with individuals being sued and churches losing tax preferences for not celebrating homosexuality) and is included in all their outreach. It is referenced in their television ad and repeated in letters to the editor. Consider this press release quoting Dr. Jim Garlow, senior pastor of Skyline Church in La Mesa
Our California Education Code (#51890) will permit children as young as kindergartners to be indoctrinated about homosexuality.
Or this bold claim repeated twice on their youth oriented website iProtectMarriage
If Prop. 8 loses, children as young as kindergarteners must be taught same-sex marriage.
They even sought to include this in their ballot initiative argument in the state’s voter pamphlet until a judge threw it out as being untruthful.
In health education classes, state law requires teachers to instruct children as young as kindergarteners about marriage … If the gay marriage ruling is not overturned, teachers will be required to teach young children there is no difference between gay marriage and traditional marriage.
But amidst all the fear and terror about kindergarten children, there’s one thing they carefully do not provide: the education code which they claim forces “indoctrination into homosexuality” and moral claims to kindergardeners about same-sex marriage. That code section (51890 and the accompanying 50891) is simply never provided for review by those who want to see for theirselves.
But Box Turtle Bulletin isn’t afraid of the education code. We took a look and, by golly, there IS a provision for teaching about marriage:
…kindergarten…Pupils will receive instruction …in matters of… marriage…
Well right there it says it. See?
Unless, of course, you read the rest of the words. We’ve included the entire code section below the break. And as it turns out, there are a few other things here which “kindergarteners must be taught”.
- Mental and emotional health and development.
- Drug use and misuse, including the misuse of tobacco and alcohol.
- Diseases and disorders, including sickle cell anemia and related genetic diseases and disorders.
- Environmental health and safety.
Who knew that the curriculum in the California kindergarten classroom included the use of Paxil or how to shoot up heroin? Who knew that genetic disease and toxic waste shared the floor with “A is for apple” and “the sky is blue”?
Well it doesn’t and they don’t. These (and marriage) are not mandates for the education of “children as young as kindergarteners”. They are part of “all educational programs offered in kindergarten and grades 1 to 12, inclusive” and reflect a goal of providing health information over a child’s entire school experience.
Do those in the Yes on 8 campaign really believe that Kindergardeners will be taugh the mechanics of gay sex or that same-sex marriages have equivalent moral weight with heterosexual marriages? I very much doubt it.
But it’s such a convenient scare tactic that they can’t resist making the claim.
There will be, at an age-appropriate time, a discussion about “Family health and child development, including the legal and financial aspects and responsibilities of marriage and parenthood”. And that discussion will, no doubt, include the fact that same-sex couples can legally marry.
But the decision as to when and how this will be taught is not to be feared. The “planning, implementation, and evaluation of comprehensive health education” must include active participation by parents and, in California, any parent can remove their child from such discussions.
Don’t you wish that the supporters of Proposition 8 were more honest? Wouldn’t it be nice if those who are so concerned about my morality cared more about their own?
(code section after the break)
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October 5th, 2008
No matter how you feel about the issue, it is easy to understand the court’s logic. Religious groups, or individuals for that matter, can treat marriage as holy or a sacrament, and each can follow its own beliefs in deciding who is eligible for marriage rites or ceremonies. But when the state gives out legal privileges or penalties, it must give them to everyone, just as the Constitution says.
The Long Beach Press-Telegram joins the long and growing list of newspapers that encourage a “No” vote on Proposition 8:
October 3rd, 2008
Since he was shot in the head on Valentines Day of this year, sympathy has seemed to shift from murder victim Larry King to his killer Brandon McInerney. Many, both straight and gay, have expressed concerns over trying McInerney as an adult and lamented the destruction of two young lives. And some felt that no hate crime had been committed.
Some, like Newsweek author Ramin Setoodeh, sought to portray McInerney as a good kid victimized by “inappropriate, sometimes harmful, behavior” from King who was flamboyant and “flaunted his sexuality and wielded it like a weapon”.
Now information has come to light that may challenge McInerney’s image as a squeeky clean white boy who just couldn’t take Larry King’s advances any more.
The LA Times reports:
Investigators seized white supremacist materials, including doodlings of Nazi swastikas, from the bedroom of Brandon McInerney, the 14-year-old Oxnard student accused of gunning down his gay classmate.
The prosecution considered McInerney’s attention in such literature in its decision to add the hate crime charge. His attorney, who has been seeking to convict King, the school, and administrators in the court of public opinion, sought to excuse the findings.
He said McInerney had the items because he was writing a school paper on Adolf Hitler. He also shared an interest in the German military with other family members, Quest said.
Yes, no doubt he did have an interest in the German military and Hitler. But Quest does not describe how reading skinhead, white supremacist literature and scrawling swaztikas prepared McInerney to write his paper.
October 3rd, 2008
In a move unlikely to surprise anyone, the Santa Cruz Sentinel has issued an editorial encouraging a “No” vote on Proposition 8.
Even people with reservations about same-sex marriage should consider the import of voting against a legal right.
We support the right under California law for gays and lesbians to marry. Vote no on Proposition 8.
Also opposing the initiative:
October 3rd, 2008
Pepperdine professor Richard M. Peterson is probably a very nice man. He’s an advocate for persons with disabilities and special education needs and seeks to help adolescents in the areas of anger management and conflict resolution. He seems to be a caring individual.
But when it comes to Proposition 8, Professor Peterson let his strong religious convictions overrule his compassion and even his integrity. Peterson is the voice of authority in the anti-marriage ad put out by the Yes on 8 campaign wherein he sternly warns Californians that unless Proposition 8 passes people could be sued for their personal beliefs, churches opposed to same-sex marriage could be threatened with losing their tax-exempt status, and children in public schools would be taught about same-sex marriage.
It is difficult to imagine that such a smart fellow is not aware that the claims he is spouting are nothing more than scare tactics.
As the San Francisco Chronicle noted
It’s all overwrought. No one’s personal views would be threatened, and churches could continue to choose which couples they marry. Public schools certainly would teach that same-sex marriage is legal, and the history behind it. But the value judgments surrounding matters of marriage and family would remain in the domain of home and church as they are today.
And surely he must know that the news sources that flash behind his head on the ad have nothing whatsoever to do with marriage and deal with situations that are not impacted by Proposition 8, should it pass or fail. Even should Prop 8 pass with an overwhelming majority, doctors still will not be able to deny services to Californians based solely on their orientation.
For a law profess to not know the inaccuracy of his claims would be startlingly irresponsible. To know but yet continue is startlingly dishonest.
In addition to playing fast and loose with his personal integrity, Professor Peterson has also placed the reputation of Pepperdine on the line.
Pepperdine University is a well respected learning institution with a beautiful campus and a very conservative Christian ideology. Its law school is considered “a bastion of conservatism” and includes such faculty as Ken Starr.
However, even Pepperdine did not want its name linked with the nonsense put out by the supporters of Proposition 8. LAist has a letter issued by the school’s public relations department indicating that they had demanded an end to the association.
The professor in the ad was not advocating a Pepperdine position, but his own personal position.
We have received confirmation that our request to have the reference to Pepperdine University deleted from the ad will be honored. We have been assured that the ad will be revised, perhaps by today.
It may be that the university recognizes that youth, even conservative youth, have little tolerance for hateful deception.
October 1st, 2008
Well knock me down with a feather. The San Francisco Chronicle has – oh gasp, surprise – issued a recommendation to vote no on the anti-marriage amendment Proposition 8.
Proponents of Proposition 8 like to cast their campaign as “restoring marriage and protecting California children.” As we have said before, there is nothing more calming or traditional to American society than giving two people who love each other the opportunity to build a life together – raising children, sharing dreams, balancing careers, building communities.
Californians should reject Proposition 8.
Though not too shocking, the Chronicle recommendation is ever so welcome.
Also out yesterday is the rejection of the proposition by The Contra Costa Times.
They both join:
As for those newpapers in favor of Proposition 8? I hear they have the Death Valley Evangelical Weekly Handout… or they will as soon as the mimeograph machine is up and running again.
October 1st, 2008
Community colleges are not where one would expect to find endorsment of anti-gay discrimination. But at the American River College, a large community college in Sacramento, Russian immigrant have a large representation on the student counsel, five members.
We have commented before on how the Slavic Immigrant community in Sacramento has become incorporated into an international anti-gay effort, one which has resulted in violence and death. Now in this college student government, the Russians, motivated by their religious ideals, pushed through an endorsement of the anti-gay amendement.
By an 8-3 vote with three abstentions, the council endorsed Proposition 8, the Marriage Protection Amendment that would overturn the state Supreme Court’s legalization of same-sex unions if passed Nov. 4.
All five Russians voted for the resolution and the Sacramento Bee is reporting the story with its ethnic overtones.
Councilman Vladimir Musorivschi, 25, of Moldova said the resolution spoke for ARC’s large Russian-speaking population, “mostly all of whom are Christian.”
But even “Christianity” took a back seat to blatant homophobia.
Choban was cursed and shouted down by some of the 200 students in the audience when he told his fellow council members, “don’t be intimidated. The homosexuals are masters of presenting themselves as a civil rights issue. It’s not a civil rights issue; it’s personal choice.”
“They’re the aggressors. They won’t tolerate my opinions,” Choban said.
However, this decision may be one which will result in an immediate termination of their representation of their fellow students. Only 300 students voted in the last student election and “students who support gay marriage said they’ve already collected 450 signatures – enough to force a recall election of the eight council members who voted for the resolution.”
It is disturbing that there does not appear to be a voice of tolerance speaking from within the immigrant Russian community. It would be most welcome.
October 1st, 2008
Stage director Dave Barton was raised a fundamentalist Christian before coming out as gay. He’s well versed in Scripture, especially St. Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians. Using Chapter 13 as the script of the video “Love Poem,” Barton has produced an incredible statement against California’s Prop 8:
September 30th, 2008
Variety magazine is reporting that Jonathan Lewis, son of Progressive Insurance Chairman and billionaire Peter Lewis, is offering to match contributions made by Hollywood leaders up to half a million dollars.
“With Election Day six weeks away, we are concerned that the entertainment industry hasn’t stepped up to the plate to fight this unnecessary initiative. We are pleased to see the leadership of Brad Pitt and Kate Capshaw and Steven Spielberg. Now it’s time for the entertainment industry as a whole to take the lead,” Lewis said in a statement. “My family and I are issuing a $500,000 challenge to the entertainment industry. We will match the next half-million dollars that entertainment industry leaders contribute. This is an urgent time in the campaign, and we have to act now.”
September 29th, 2008
There are, no doubt, many Orthodox Jews who devoutly believe that their faith requires that they oppose same-sex marriage, yet do so with decency, compassion, and empathy. Rabbi Yehuda Levin isn’t one of them.
In response to the Southern California Board of Rabbis’ decision to oppose Proposition 8, Levin has released a statement – on the Christian News Wire. Here are a few observations:
Levin chooses not to recognize gay persons as distinctly existing:
We have opposed the homosexual agenda from ‘day-one,’ when they attempted to craft a separate class based on their bedroom misbehavior.
He denies the ability of others to disagree with him and call themselves an Orthodox Jew and accuses the vast majority of Jews in this country of being “anti-Torah”:
Additionally, no one can claim to be an Orthodox Jew while denying the very commandments of the Almighty Himself. Thus, we condemn the misrepresentation on the part of any “fringe Orthodox” Jew associated with the Southern California Board Of Rabbis, or any other anti-Torah group, who seeks to pervert Divine Law to ‘conform’ to Human depravity.
Then, having insulted his fellow Jews, he demands their vote.
Finally, he calls for “militant opposition” to “propagators of cultural contamination”. Now I’m not entirely sure I know what this means, but it sounds an awful lot like “let’s go beat some gay people” to me.
Sure there are lots of decent supporters of Proposition 8. And I hope they are embarassed to be associated with someone like Levin.
September 29th, 2008
Although there is no consideration of an amendment in New York to ban gay marriage, New Yorkers are impacted by the results of the vote on Proposition 8. Currently, same-sex couples in the Empire State will have their marriages recognized at home if they are conducted in a location where they are legal. If Prop 8 passes, New Yorkers will be limited to Massachusetts and foreign nations.
So the New York Times has taken an editorial position in opposition to Proposition 8 and to the propositions in Arizona and Florida.
Whether this important civil rights victory endures is now up to California voters. Opponents of giving gay couples the protections, dignity and respect that come with marriage are working furiously to try to overturn the court ruling through Proposition 8. It is our fervent hope that Californians will reject this mean-spirited attempt to embed second-class treatment of one group of citizens in the State Constitution.
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Similar discriminatory measures are on the ballot in Arizona and Florida. They also should be rejected.
September 29th, 2008
Students at Brigham Young University are being encouraged to campaign for California’s anti-gay marriage amendment, Proposition 8. (BYU News)
The International Voice for Youth club sponsored an assembly Thursday night to educate students about the possible effects of not passing Proposition 8 in November. After a speech by Lynn Wardle, a BYU law professor, the students got on their cell phones and started calling fellow students from California.
The Mormon youth group will continue to seek to influence the election in California.
The International Voice for Youth will host phone banks each week leading up to the election on Nov. 4. They will also be giving out information on voter registration, absentee voting and Proposition 8 at a booth in the Wilkinson Student Center each Monday and Thursday just outside the BYU Bookstore.
If the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints continues their public activism, they run the risk of Proposition 8 becoming known as the Mormon Marriage Amendment. I think that is likely not to be advantageous to their marketing strategy.
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