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Linda Harvey takes purer-than-pure to a whole new level

Timothy Kincaid

March 8th, 2010

Most social conservatives are not wild eyed hate-filled bigots who would like nothing more than to see gay folks burnt at the stake. Most folks who don’t support civil equality for their gay fellow-citizens really don’t know much about gay folk and don’t actually wish us individual harm. It’s more of a “them liberals” kind of thing.

And over the past decade Americans – including many folks who think of themselves as conservative – have began the process of seeing gay folk as human. We are neighbors, friends, coworkers, and family. We no longer are “confirmed bachelors” and “maiden aunts” living with “lifelong friends” who are a shameful secret, but instead are respected and acknowledged parts of our community.

And, as such, it is no longer socially acceptable to just oppose anything and everything to do with our lives. Yes, polls suggest that the nation isn’t quite ready to joyously celebrate marriage equality, but blatant discrimination is frowned on, even in right-wing circles. Especially if it sounds too hateful.

Ah, but not everyone is on board with the “treat ‘em like human” idea. As we saw with the recent brouhaha at CPAC, some folks can’t even be in the same room with gay folk – even those who agree with most of their agenda. The uber-conservative CPAC crowd got a taste of excitement when the purer-than-pure conservatives attacked their brethren for not being adequately anti-gay.

LindaHarveyBut no one has ever accused Linda Harvey of noting being adequately anti-gay. In fact, few can live up to her standard. And now Linda is letting conservatives know just how pure she is, in the offensive over-the-top inflammatory language she’s know for.

Linda has decided that some people aren’t really conservative because they “support homosexuality”. And by “support homosexuality”, Linda means pretty much anything other than venom-spewing declarations of disgust and intolerance. Anything short of piling up the firewood and calling for the torches is seen by Linda as selling out.

And the list of “Conservatives who aren’t” is pretty impressive. Folks who just aren’t as pure as Lina include:

  • CPAC, for allowing GOPride to be there
  • “Bill O’Reilly and his feebly-informed culture warrior, Margaret Hoover” because they ” endorse repealing the ban on homosexuality in the military”
  • Charles Krauthammer, who thinks that Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is discriminatory
  • Dick Cheney, for “listening to a self-declared ‘born-that-way’ homosexual relative”
  • “Cindy McCain and her silly daughter” for backing same-sex unions
  • Mitt Romney, because ” in 2004, ordered reluctant clerks to issue marriage licenses to Party A and Party B. A genuine conservative might have held off until forced.”
  • Ted Olson, for the obvious
  • Stand for Marriage Maine, for saying “we want to be tolerant of gays”
  • Maggie Gallagher, because she can’t be depended on to “always articulate clear objections to homosexual behavior. Sometimes, she bows the knee to the vaunted ‘identity’”
  • The Catholic Church, because it says that it “respects and accepts gays”

Oh yes, when it comes to being a real conservative, Linda is purer-than-purer-than-pure.

It’s behavior, it can be changed and it’s always wrong.

Teach kids to “respect” this behavior? No! Respect for others, yes, but people are born with the anatomy for heterosexuality, not homosexuality. Genuine respect involves telling the truth, and citing the risks, limitations and sinfulness of this perversion.

Ah, but lovely Linda has an extra-special place in her contempt for one fellow who is worse than anyone: Warren Throckmorton. Ya see, Warren actually thinks that you should treat gay people the way you want to be treated. Such heresy!!

And Warren has gone so far as to suggest that instead of storming out of school on the Day of Silence, conservative Christian kids should observe the Golden Rule and hand out the following message.

This is what I’m doing:

I pledge to treat others the way I want to be treated.

Will you join me in this pledge?

“Do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Luke 6:31).

But not Linda. She’s having none of that.

If I were a parent who discovered my minor child had been counseled in this way, I’d bring the largest and most aggressive medical malpractice suit I could launch against this counselor at Grove City.

Golden Rule? Not on your life.

And so now Warren is the pet project for Linda and her buddy Peter LaBarbera. LaBarbera has run a series of denunciations of “heretical” Dr. Throckmorton and has asked his readers to

TAKE ACTION: Contact Grove City College (President Richard Jewell: 724-458-2500; rgjewell@gcc.edu) and ask them if GCC professor Warren Throckmorton’s unorthodox views on homosexuality represent “authentically Christian” teachings on this issue. (GCC advertises itself as a solid, “authentically Christian” institution.) Request a written response as to whether Throckmorton’s writings on and approach toward homosexuality honor Grove City’s Christian charter “rejecting relativism and secularism.”

Yes, it looks like Warren should be fired; he just can’t be counted on to be a hater. Nor Bill O’Reilly. Nor even the Catholic Church. Or at least not up to Linda’s and Pete’s standards. It’s a sad sad world.

But at least Linda and Pete have each other. And Pete’s porn collection.

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homer
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

It would be very curious to know what a psychiatrist would say about Ms. Harvey.

WMDKitty
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

@homer — I’d pay good money to be a fly on that wall!

Andrew
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

I love how they up the crazy. MTV would be wise to cast a series about these people. I mean, if insane women and party kids get the ratings, imagine what these psychos could do!

Ben in Oakland
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

Golden rule? Not on your life.

Jesus christ? Not on your afterlife.

Gandhi liked Jesus, didn’t have much good to say aobut christians.

Just sayin……….

David
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

“Golden Rule? Not on your life.”

So she overtly rejects Jesus Christ. Whaddaya know, another reasonably honest homophobe to stand along side Fred Phelps. Perhaps he should adopt her.

Her remarks demonstrate something I’ve long argued – that the infamous Romans 1 passage (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom%201:18-2:16;&version=ESV;) applies far, far, far more to any homophobe than to any homosexual.

We can truly say of Linda “21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they(E) became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. . . .28And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God,(P) God gave them up to(Q) a debased mind to do(R) what ought not to be done. 29They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”

David
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

Linda

I have the reasonable expectation that you google your name to find any reference to yourself on the ‘net, and so, will find this page.

The following additional verses speak to your remark “Golden Rule? Not on your life.”

John 3:36 (New International Version)

36Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him.”

John 8:24 (New International Version)

24I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be,[a] you will indeed die in your sins.”

Matthew 12:31-32 (New International Version)

31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

As I’ve told many people who share your prejudice, the illusion of a hint of a possibility of a splinter that you see in the eyes of GLBTQ people, is only a tiny sliver of the shadow cast by the log in your own eye.

Ephilei
March 8th, 2010 | LINK

David, I somewhat agree. Romans 1 is about idolatry, as in paganism. Applying it to anyone but a polytheist would be taking it out of context. I suppose it technically does apply more to homophobes that gays, but only because it does not apply to gays whatsoever. I do see your strategy and it’s clever. But from a purely exegetical perspective, it’s poor.

If you want to use the Bible to rail against the arrogant, the self-righteous, and the ignorant, there are dozens of better passages.

Frijondi
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

What a strange woman she is. But she serves a useful function for people on her side of the issue — she makes the other hardliners look moderate. And I dare say some of them appreciate that.

Bill S
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

She thinks MAGGIE GALLAGHER is too liberal? WTF?
I guess there is a difference between the two:
Maggie has sh!t for brains.
Linda has sh!t where a heart would be.

Richard Rush
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

One of the fun things to watch is how Purity Seekers condemn those who are only slightly less pure than themselves. As they achieve ever-higher levels of purity, those left behind are suddenly deemed impure and must be condemned.

Richard Rush
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

homer said, “It would be very curious to know what a psychiatrist would say about Ms. Harvey.”

I’d like to know too.

I have no psych training at all, but I’ve been thinking that people such as Harvey, LaBarbera, Lively, etc. exhibit some symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

grantdale
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

You do realise that this is, like, a totally complete bogus plot by Warren Throckmorton to make himself look normal… right?

Either that, or he’s but once again hopefully gaining some useful insight into minority stress. Thankfully he is not 15 years old, and has people he can to turn to that will not go onto reinforce the negative original message. And, frankly, I wouldn’t wish in on anyone in any case.

ps Timothy, I also wish you had not used the words “Linda” “Pete” and “porn collection” in the same sentence. Some distance may have helped.

(Almost — almost — as revolting and as equally inhumane as the time that “Ould” and “prostate” appeared in the same post on a pointless vanity blog that may be familiar to you.)

David Wood
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

What in the hell is an ad for Ann Coulter’s doing on this site?

Jason D
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

If Jesus were to show up today, he’d find a very interesting mess made of what his clear intentions were to begin with.

The religion that sprung up out of his idea that “hey, why don’t we love each other?” seems to be consumed by things that weren’t even part of his ministry.

An alien viewing our world would think that the central purpose and tenent of Christianity is to stop homosexuality — a goal and purpose never articulated anywhere in the text of the Bible. Certainly not in any of Jesus’ teachings, nor the ten commandments.

Linda is applying what I’ve started calling “The Gay Exception”. In other words, the teachings of Jesus, the golden rule, honesty, integrity, and every other bit of kindness, compassion, and humanity are suspended the moment a gay person enters the situation. Then, all bets are off.

Anyone else catch the part where Linda said if I were a parent..”? Thank Heaven for small favors.

Grant
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

I wonder if Ms. Gallagher will defend herself against Ms. Harvey. In these right-wing purity battles, I often find the accused remain silent – so as not to mess with the otherwise fine-and-dandy anti-gay message.

Evan Hurst
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

“And Pete’s porn collection.”

Don’t forget about the study-in-pencil nudes of Matt Barber reenacting all his favorite right hooks.

(Allegedly!)

Scott
March 9th, 2010 | LINK

Linda Harvey’s just a miserable woman. Who else would have the time to make a list like that?

Jason D
March 10th, 2010 | LINK

It just occured to me that Linda is definitely pure.

It’s just not pure goodness.

Mykelb
March 10th, 2010 | LINK

@ Jason D: “…if I were a parent…” Maybe that is her main malfunction. She is one of those women whose sole purpose in life was to procreate and she can’t. So she goes on a lifetime witchhunt against the gays, the same people who can’t have children by natural means. PROJECTION MUCH?

Evan Hurst
March 10th, 2010 | LINK

Is she childless?

If so, that explains a lot. There’s always some inner psychosis motivating anti-gay people like Linda.

Bill S
March 10th, 2010 | LINK

If she’s unable to have children, perhaps someone should lovingly explain to her that, perhaps the reason she’s barren is because God doesn’t her to have children because she’d be a sh!tty mother.
I’d be happy to volunteer. But only if I know, for certain, that she is barren.

Bill S
March 10th, 2010 | LINK

I’d also add, in a loving way, that if she is indeed unable to have children, she should live alone and never have sex for the rest of her life.
Because, obviously, that’s what God wants for her.

(Note: I don’t actually believe God wants barren women to be celibate and miserable. Just Linda Harvey.)

Timothy Kincaid
March 10th, 2010 | LINK

Guys, I think you misread the sentence,

If I were a parent who discovered my minor child had …

Linda actually is a mother. From the bio on her site:

Linda Harvey holds a B.A. in English from Miami University, Oxford, Ohio, and has done graduate work at both Miami and Ohio State University. She is the wife of Tom Harvey and the mother of two children. They live in Columbus, Ohio.

KC Smith
September 28th, 2011 | LINK

She strikes me as one of those people who feel that if homosexuals don’t exist, then she couldn’t possibly be one. I’d bet good money she has some skeletons in the dorm rooms of Miami and Ohio State University. She probably figures if she can deny herself and be married with two kids, then everyone else ought to be able to, also.

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